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Is it a bird, or a plane, or a total pain in the arse? How to make a hash of Eduards I-16.

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Can I play too? :smile:

I had no intention of taking part in this group build but I have a confession. My latest build has been stalled for nearly two weeks (well, twelve days if you want to be pedantic) :blushing:. I decided to have a go at another wingything kit and after an initial surge of interest, it been glaring at me from the eeeeerrrm, workbench-of-doom where it is lying in it's, erm... tupperware-of-dooooooom. :shock: 

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Oh yes, there's some in the spray-booth-of-doooooooooooooooooooooom as well.

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TWELVE DAYS of DOOOOOOOOOM! That it should come to this :no:. How can I live with the shame? :crybaby:

Right, now I've pretended to be as flawed as the rest of you, can I play now? :yes:

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17 hours ago, Gorby said:

Right, now I've pretended to be as flawed as the rest of you, can I play now? 

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I didn't intend doing a work in progress report for this kit. I was racked with guilt at the horrible and deeply unnatural things that I'd been subjecting the English language to o.O. I thought I'd give it a chance to recover its dignity by giving it a rest this time. Apparently, taking part in a group build leaves me with no alternative but to torment some poor innocent words.

One of the reasons for doing this build is to see if building a kit can still press my pleasure buttons after my year of scratching. The whole point was to do an out of the box build, sticking to the offered schemes and NOT stressing about insignificances – a nice soothing, relaxing build. Inevitably I ended up faffing with bits that really didn't need to be faffed with, but it would appear that I quite like doing the faffy bits.

As always, adherence to strict historical accuracy will be paramount as with all my latest builds (pause for laughter to die down).

As you may possibly have gathered from the title, I've progressed a bit further since the twelve days of shame :blush:, and I've encountered a couple of issues. I've seen build reports on this kit that don't mention these problems, but I can't for the life of me figure out what I've done wrong.

What the hell! How did that happen? :shock:

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The wing is about over a mill lower than the fuselage - but only on one side!!!!!! Even surprised/angry face and stamping it down didn't work.

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Looking inside it seems that the fuselage is fouling on the top of the wheel well.

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I'll need to thinyfy some plastic.

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After getting next to nowhere with the chisel and file, I resorted to my placy-mangler (which I've never actually needed to use for modelling before) which munched away the offending areas in next to no time.

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That did help, but there was still a smallish step that I had to sand down from the top of the wing. I ended up overdoing it and had to fill the resulting trench. :wallbash:

What the hell! How did that happen?:shock: This kit is beginning to make me feel like a beginner. There isn't a gap on the top of the wing so why the hell is this gaping gulf at the bottom?

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Look I can fit my whole hand in it.

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Not only that, when view from the side you can see there's a significant step along the whole joint with the front bit (the left) being just under 1mm lower than the back. That's a serious amount of placy that needs to be removed. After pondering the solution to this, the first-world of all first-world problems, I decided to use my new bestest friend – the placy-mangler. I can see this tool being used quite a lot in the future, but I just need to remember it probably wouldn't be a good idea to try and clean my teeth with it.

Eduard has long been my favourite kit maker due to it's (usually) Tamiya like quality and the fact that the prices are good enough for even a tight git like me. I don't know why this one's turned out so crap.

I briefly had thoughts of launching it out the bedroom window, but I don't give up regardless of the negative effect on my mental health – I'm just not that sensible :crazy:. If this kit means twenty years of counselling, so be it. Mind you it was doing my head in too much to carry on, so it languished on the work-bench of doooooom for a couple more days.

Happy, happy, happy.*

 

* Not. :(

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Well arent we just the little ray of sunshine today 😁

Suck it up buttercup*, . you built a steam engine out of nowt but bottle caps and dental floss, im sure you can batter your way through, heaven forbid, an actual model in a box 😁

" btw, i suck at motivating people, sooooo, just carry on old chap, pip pip and all that. 😁

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Sounds like you're in the same boat as myself Mark, mentally going downhill caused by several lumps of badly fitting plastic. Not so much a Group Build more  a Group Breakdown. Keep going Mark even if it needs bucket loads of filler, you'll feel good about when it appears in the Gallery.

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Why do you put yourself through it, lol its because you love it,

i would love to take part in a group build, but as my maritime projects take years no one want to play with me 

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Years building a single model... now thats dedication. 

Mind, i have been building a 1/8th Pocher Bugatti T50 for about 4 years... 

(When i say building, i mean 98.5% of those 4 years have been sat looking at a 75% built bugatti 😁

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3 hours ago, Gorby said:

Even surprised/angry face and stamping it down didn't work.

I'm jealous.

I only get a nagging wee ned gabbing in my ear.

Not only do you see yours ,he actually helps you build stuff.   9Is that permitted in the GB rules I wonder ?)

Perhaps if I didn't take the medication.......

 

I have no doubt that this will turn out as well as anything else we've seen from Chez Gorby Workshops.

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Gorby's cheating.
He's making a stickman build the model for him 
For less than minimum wage.  

I just wish I had thought of it!
And there's someone else to blame if things go pyrus shaped

Not that it will Mark. :D
 

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12 hours ago, Mad Steve said:

Suck it up buttercup*, . you built a steam engine out of nowt but bottle caps and dental floss, im sure you can batter your way through, heaven forbid, an actual model in a box 😁

I know that embracing the totally unfamiliar may be frightening your Madness, but let me introduce you to something you appear to have never encountered before. Don't worry, it won't bite:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sympathy

:wink:

9 hours ago, RWG686 said:

Is that permitted in the GB rules I wonder ?

 

3 hours ago, Walrus said:

Gorby's cheating.

I am handicapped by my brain, so it sort of evens itself out. :stuart:

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14 hours ago, Grunhertz said:

Nows your chance steve....

Absolutely no chance... :) I literally have to pack away half of my work area just to get the damn thing on my desk. 

What I might do though is start up a thread for it in the veehickles area. That might get the juices flowing again.

Sorry Gorbs, please continue wiff your hairyplane (see.. sympathy :)) (new fangled twaddle, what will they think of next) 

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4 hours ago, Mad Steve said:

what will they think of next) 

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A supersonic bi-plane ,based on Adolph Busemann's research from 1932?

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Dronewatch: The Mating Habits of UAVs 

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During most builds, I usually have a 'what am I doing with my life' moment and it's hit quite early with this one. Not enjoying this kit to the point of doing something unspeakable…. For those of you that are easily shocked, you may need to look away…. I considered doing it…. I'm not sure I can say it….. wheels up :shock:!

In all my years modelling, it's never come to this before. Excuse me while I just go and wash my brain out with soap. :cry:

I really like the I-16, and in the last year whenever I have considered choosing from my micro stash, this is the kit that came to mind first. But it's turned into kitzilla and I just want it to be over. I've heard that the undercarriage is a bit of a pain to build. I want the pain to go away, so no undercarriage.

Wheels up or wheels down?

Drawbacks:

No pilot provided in the kit. No problem as I've got one spare from my Pe-2.

I've already added seatbelts. I'll need to rip em out.

No stand included – at this rate impaling it on a spike on London bridge is definitely an option.

In favour:

It'll make the bad thing go away.

More for the spares box – although other than the wheels, most of it is useless for scratch-building.

Build a stand. How hard can it be?

 

I've selected/press-ganged a suitable 'volunteer', but it looks like he may need a bit more tuition.

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He has a little know Russian name 'Ivad' or to give him his full name, 'Ivad Enoughovich'. Brave and noble he may be, but about as bright as a 5 watt light bulb.

I moved my attention to the undercarriage doors and once again, wished I hadn't.

(To show solidarity with any Aussie modellers, the next photo will be shown upside-down.)

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Take that bush-fires! :ermm:

TWELVE parts for the main wheel wells! And of course nobody will ever be abnormal enough to have them closed, so Eduard don't give us perverts any help. It turns out that the largest two parts aren't required and aren't even shown on the instructions, but still, five parts for each well. Those bloody Russians really hated modellers.

It looks like I'm going to have to psych myself up for this. :|

Maybe next week…..

Or the week after.

If I did it crashed in a field I wouldn’t even need……….

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2 minutes ago, RWG686 said:

Use a little piece of clear rod and have it doing a low buzz of your shed.

Better still you could put it on a pole in the garden and when the wind blows the propeller turns round and the crankshaft system you made will make your little helper dude hand crank start the engine.
You know like those things with a windmill that make the little man chop wood like billy-oh. 

You could make a fortune selling them to garden centres.
They would fly off the shelves 

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Now that I've chosen the path of least resistance, it appears that I've chosen the path of most resistance. After ripping a few things out and making several alterations that got me to the point of no return, I found that the bloody undercarriage doors didn't bloody fit in the bloody holes.

If Eduard had made 'Play School' it wouldn't matter what shape the windows were – the glass wouldn't fit in any of them. And I found that they aren't good with numbers either, so 'Sesame Street' would be beyond their intellect. Embarrassingly, I was nearly an hour in before I realised that they've numbered the parts on the instructions, the opposite side to what they should be, and all that lovely detail should be hidden on the inside.

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(The bits shown above are shown after half an hour of trying to fettle one side into the correct shape (just held in with Blu Tac at this stage). The other side shows the problems).

I'm not going to make these perfect as that's beyond my ability I can't imagine that the real one was a thing of beauty, and it'll be on a stand anyway – you won't be able to see (I won't let you).

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Sometimes, when a pilot is too tall, drastic measures are required (those of a squeamish nature may need to look away). :sick:

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These are the PE cockpit hatches that I was going to pose in the open position to show off all that exquisite PE that I have now either ripped out, or will now be obscured by a pilot shaped turnip. To give an idea of scale I've shown them with the legal tender of Gorbyopolis. This is the two bite piece. Obviously, it will only help Gorbies assess the size, but I think you'll find that's more your problem than mine.

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One of the bends in these two pieces is along a very delicate, perforated line. You could have knocked me down with a steam train when, who’d have guessed it, it broke rather than bent. I was going to use it to make it easier to stick in the orifice (stop it!). As virtually nothing inside the office will be visible, I just used bits of stretched around the edge. You'll have to excuse the plonker getting in the way of an informative (if very, very dull) photo. He's finding the goggles are a little on the tight side. Serves him right for getting in the bloody way.

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Giving some thought to attaching the impaling spike, I've packed the snout with Milliput. There's a pre-existing hole underneath and I'll shove something up there when the time comes (I said stop it!).

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OY, YOU THIEVING GIT! That's my entire worldly wealth.

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Next up, aggravating the rivet-counters. :evil:

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Remember, Soviets built airplanes like tractors. Gaps, what are gaps? Fit? Is optional Comrade. Only thing which counts is to get airplane out factory doors. If airplane flies, is bolshoi bonus, nyet?

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58 minutes ago, Jessie_C said:

Remember, Soviets built airplanes like tractors. Gaps, what are gaps? Fit? Is optional Comrade. Only thing which counts is to get airplane out factory doors. If airplane flies, is bolshoi bonus, nyet?

Just what I was thinking. The reward (i.e. not getting a train ticket to Siberia) was for quantity not quality.

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As the last update met with almost universal obscurity, maybe a loud

      BANG!

Might get your attention?

 

Quite early in the build I considered how I'm going to get the rivet-counter hate-mail flowing. I briefly considered doing a jet powered I-16 what-if.

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Maybe not.

I had a look at the schemes that Eduard have provided for this kit and I was quite impressed with myself for managing to say awake.

BORING!

After a bit of Googleisation, something a little more interesting came along. apparently the Krasnaya Pyaterka ("The Red Five") aerobatic team used I-16's. They were still operational fighters, but decked out in a snazzy design, which I liked muchly.

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It's a very, very nice design….. but no doubt to the horror to the 'only use period photos for accuracy' brigade, I thought I could improve on it. :yes:  After all, they lived in the olden days so they couldn't help it if they were wrong, not to worry, I've finally managed to put history right. Don't mention it. 

On a forum not a million miles away, some unsuspecting innocent posted a rather nice I-153 and was promptly savaged for his lack of total adherence to the truth and the light. His post ended up as a battlefield of opposing armies waging skirmish after skirmish – even after the original postie said that he didn't give a stuff about the 'correct' colours. I fail to understand the mindset of someone who thinks they can dictate how you paint your model. My model my rules – your model your rules. Why the hell does it matter so much, it's just a bloody model?

I'm going to try something a bit different with this, but first I need to start with a blank canvas. The primer went on a little thick to the point of getting a bit of orange peel effect, but if there is one thing marriage has taught me – you don't point out cellulite. A couple of hours later I went to sort it out and it had completely self levelled. At least somethings going right for me in this build.

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Normally I'd get to work with my crayons and only start to think about masking off to spray the insignia etc. afterwards. Things are going to different with this. First colour:

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You may have noticed that the pilot has had species realignment surgery and is now identifying as a dog. He seems happier.

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At least the Soviets had one of the easier insignia to mask:

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Another blast with primer after applying my star stickers. This mask is only on temporarily to help me line up the masks either side.

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The pen lines are to make it easier to line everything up. Remove centre mask and spray the black bits.

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Mask off the bits that are supposed to stay black.

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It seemed to be going so well. Due to the various paint stages, the masking tape was on for three days and this is the result.

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The red had been on for at least 24 hours before it was masked. I've never had this happen before. :sad:

I was rapidly heading for 'can't be bothered' territory with this one. Just as I think I'm getting close, some git keeps moving the goal posts. I was quite enamoured with the overall effect which was the thing that gave me a kick up the bum to keep me going. Here and elsewhere, I've seen some lovely brush painting – with that in mind, rather than mask off and spray, I thought I'd give it a go. Apparently brush painting isn't my forte either – after three coats it was just getting streakier.

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No option other than to spray. I remembered that, for some forgotten reason, we have several lifetimes supply of post-it notes – the curse of shopping at Costco, you need one of something and end up with half a house full.

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Even with the post-its, there was significant irritation. Stronger words than 'bloody' were used. Quite a lot of them in fact. :rant:

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It took five coats of paint to cover the brush marks. There's going to be so much paint on the tail that it'll need a tog rating. I know that you can't take too much excitement in one sitting, so the full paint job will be unveiled to a desperately eager world in the final post. :sleeping:

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