RWG686 37,798 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 Chatting with @Jag Mate got me rummaging about to find the Hasegawa Jaguar which had the decal failure. Found the kit but forgot to photograph it. I was convinced that I had a thread on it to but I'm damned if I can find it so if you do..just ignore it. I will be cutting the nose off and doing it as a 54 Squadron aircraft not long after they re-formed. At that stage they did not have the LRMTS nose. It looked like this. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jag Mate 1,125 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 I have never seen an RAF single seater without the laser nose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RWG686 37,798 Posted August 28 Author Report Share Posted August 28 16 minutes ago, Jag Mate said: an RAF single seater without the laser nose. Not sure when they started fitting them on the production line. Certainly in early 1974 the deliveries to Lossiemouth didn't have them. Here's a couple of the OCU ones as well. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jag Mate 1,125 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 I still think I can do that nose measurement on computer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RWG686 37,798 Posted August 28 Author Report Share Posted August 28 Appreciate that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RWG686 37,798 Posted August 29 Author Report Share Posted August 29 This is the stage I got to before the decal failure. It had the outer wing pylons only as it was to be a display aircraft. Our very own @Jag Mate certainly displayed with these pylons only but don't know if it was his idea. Nose laser cut off and pylons removed. Filler applied since photos. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jag Mate 1,125 Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 The ides of the outer wing pylons was that of my predecessor. I took a jet so fitted on an air test in smooth air to check. At high incidence the Jaguar would display a high oscillatory rate of Dutch roll known in the trade as 'wing rock'. This phenomenon occurs when lateral stability is greater than directional. Because it had a relatively small fin the jet started to run out of directional stability at high incidence. Wing rock was a way the jet was telling you that it was beginning to be unhappy. The small outer wing weapons pylons were slightly behind the centre of gravity and so gave a very small increase in directional stability. If I remember the drag index of a pylon was eight and this was a small price to pay. The Jaguar at high incidence could be a nasty piece of kit. A rapid increase in incidence when pulling hard quickly would lead to a departure from controlled flight very rapidly indeed. This has sadly caused several fatalities over the years because the aeroplane was usually at low level. A now retired aeroplane which was lovely to fly and could be relied upon to deliver the goods but which commanded respect. So now you all know. 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recurve 1,994 Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 17 hours ago, Jag Mate said: I have never seen an RAF single seater without the laser nose. The original Airfix Jag was a GR1 without LRMTS Miko (I have one for when I build the Jaguar prototype) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jag Mate 1,125 Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 This will enlighten you. www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060027021 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RWG686 37,798 Posted August 29 Author Report Share Posted August 29 That spin is something else and that 18000' per minute descent doesn't leave you much does it ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jag Mate 1,125 Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 Innit ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RWG686 37,798 Posted August 31 Author Report Share Posted August 31 Start of the new nose. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huntsman’s Close 842 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 Are you using the Hasegawa Jaguar A nose as a basis? (Cos that’s what I’m planning sometime in the future when I do the same). Trouble is, I really like Jaguars, they made a big impression on 9 year old me, low level in Scotland when they were the new thing. I have a habit of leaving my favourite bits of meals until last, likewise with kits of favourite aircraft, I want to always have them to look forward to building! Still, I have quite a few to build and I can be always save one last one I suppose! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RWG686 37,798 Posted August 31 Author Report Share Posted August 31 14 minutes ago, Huntsman’s Close said: Are you using the Hasegawa Jaguar A nose as a basis? L39 nose from scrap box and filler using some kind soul's measurements and a plan I found on line printed off. A bit of sanding should do it. 15 minutes ago, Huntsman’s Close said: low level in Scotland when they were the new thing Probably that hooligan @Jag Mate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jag Mate 1,125 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 Coming from a Viet Jock that's rich. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RWG686 37,798 Posted August 31 Author Report Share Posted August 31 38 minutes ago, Jag Mate said: a Viet Jock Any idea where that saying came from ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RWG686 37,798 Posted September 4 Author Report Share Posted September 4 Got the nose done and the first coat of light aircraft grey underneath. Unfortunately it is still 24 degrees up in the workshop so the paint dried too quickly and I made the mistake of brushing over. Down to the bathroom sink and all washed off. I'll remask and try enamel paint tomorrow. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huntsman’s Close 842 Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 Are you still in need of pylons for this one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RWG686 37,798 Posted September 4 Author Report Share Posted September 4 2 minutes ago, Huntsman’s Close said: Are you still in need of pylons for this one? Apologies, I forgot to tell you that I'm making this one clean so won't need them. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RWG686 37,798 Posted September 6 Author Report Share Posted September 6 Last night's first coat of Light Aircraft Grey and tonight's Dark Sea Grey 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huntsman’s Close 842 Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 (edited) (issue now sorted) Totally random, leftfield question… does anyone have a left-hand Airfix Jaguar fuselage half that they could lend me? (A scrap one would do, don’t even need the bit forward of the cockpit) Edited September 8 by Huntsman’s Close Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RWG686 37,798 Posted September 10 Author Report Share Posted September 10 Some more paint 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mac1677 5,962 Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 Nice looking Jag Rich 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RWG686 37,798 Posted September 13 Author Report Share Posted September 13 I've decided that I should have really binned this and gone for a new kit. (That I will do and as I found decals for one with a gold star on the intake I might even do one of @Jag Mate's former mounts) I discovered why I hadn't finished it the first time..this is its third life...The undercarriage doors had gone missing. I started on the decals tonight after doing a bit of detail painting. Guess who forgot to varnish them before sticking them in water? I should have remembered how old they were. They broke up and are out of sync so I'll need to go over the white bits with paint later. I was unable to save the checkerboard for the starboard side and have nothing like it in the spares. Here's where she is tonight 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jag Mate 1,125 Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 Are you going to coat it in matt varnish ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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