Non aircraft internet finds.

[dixieflyer 4,134]

13 minutes ago, RWG686 said:

Photo caption said 1st Armored Division, Italy. No other details

Yeah, asked a buddy, and he said it was 1st AD, and also sometime in '44. Great weathering study as it's filthy.

[RWG686 31,454]

[Mad Steve 19,874]

Yes, there we have it... 

Russia, China, the New World Order... Quake with fear in the presence of our (chinese) Recoiless Rifles...pew pew pew

That is a recycled Casspir, I think its called a Bosvark (Bushpig) 

 

[Gorby 16,292]

9 hours ago, RWG686 said:

That would be a modelling challenge.

[Mad Steve 19,874]

Gorbs im sure one of the resin lot do just that sandbag armour 

[RWG686 31,454]

[Mad Steve 19,874]

Some odd ones there 

[Gorby 16,292]

8 hours ago, RWG686 said:

Took me a while to find out what that is. From http://ftr.wot-news.com/2017/03/

This is a Panhard AML armored car with MARS turret by Hispano Suiza. A single prototype was built in the 1980s. The vehicle itself is not very remarkable, but the turret is.

You see, despite its oscillating turret look, the gun is manually loaded. Let that sink in. If you are wondering how the hell that worked, there is a small hatch in the roof of the vehicle. For each shot, a crew member has to pick up a shell from inside the vehicle (the rack was on the left side), remove it from rack, squeeze it through the roof hatch also on the left side, somehow squeeze himself along with it and load the shell into the automatic loading mechanism while half of his body is exposed.

In effect the vehicle could only fire when stationary and if it came under fire, the gun turned into a single shot weapon.

*sigh*

Needless to say, this design did not gain any customers.

[Gorby 16,292]

11 hours ago, RWG686 said:

More on this: https://www.tankarchives.ca/2017/02/htz-16-improvisation-on-industrial-scale.html

[RWG686 31,454]

[dixieflyer 4,134]

On 1/27/2023 at 1:48 AM, Gorby said:

That would be a modelling challenge.

And quite an investment in Milliput if one doesn't go the resin aftermarket route.

Can you imagine the stress on the running gear of all that extra weight? If memory serves, Patton was very much against this sort of thing because of the tearing down of transmissions, running gear, etc.

[dixieflyer 4,134]

14 hours ago, RWG686 said:

 

Ahhh yes, bustin' track. I've done it on M60A3's . . at night . . . in a thunderstorm . . . not fun at all, let me tell you. However, I sure wouldn't want to do it with rounds coming down around me.

[Gorby 16,292]

1 minute ago, dixieflyer said:

Patton was very much against this sort of thing because of the tearing down of transmissions, running gear, etc.

Apparently it didn't do much to improve protection either.

[dixieflyer 4,134]

4 minutes ago, Gorby said:

Apparently it didn't do much to improve protection either.

Tell that to the guys inside.   If it was me inside, I'd pile it on!!! 

[Gorby 16,292]

20 minutes ago, dixieflyer said:

Tell that to the guys inside.   If it was me inside, I'd pile it on!!! 

I was reading a while ago something which said that the only thing which helped is when they bolted or welded additional armour plate on. The sand bags, concrete, wood they sometimes used was next to useless.

[DC3 3,586]

3 hours ago, Gorby said:

I was reading a while ago something which said that the only thing which helped is when they bolted or welded additional armour plate on. The sand bags, concrete, wood they sometimes used was next to useless.

As Dixie said if it gave me an extra 1 or 2% chance of survival or put an enemy off trying anything (bearing in mind this was mostly anti infantry related) I'd whack it on as well.

[Mad Steve 19,874]

Evening All 

Thought I'd show you a few pics of the Vehicles used by our armed forces down here... (plenty more odds and sods to come)

BADGER (very limited no built) 

Bateleur MLRS 

BUFFEL

CASSPIR

CASSPIR MAX

ELAND 90

G5 155MM CANNON

G6 (RHINO FOR EXPORT VERSIONS)

KWEVOEL RECOVERY TRUCK

MAMBA (RG 31) 

 

OLIPHANT MK2 

RATEL 90 

RATEL ZT3

ROOIKAT 

ROOIKAT SPAAG (PROTOTYPE ONLY)

SAMIL 100 TRUCK 

MAN TANK TRANSPORTER

YSTERVARK (WARTHOG) 

 

Thats enough for now I think, more to follow soon, loads of interesting funny looking vehicles down here

 

 

 

 

[Gorby 16,292]

14 hours ago, Mad Steve said:

Thought I'd show you a few pics of the Vehicles used by our armed forces down here..

Is part of the design brief for military vehicles in Africa's bottom to injure the enemies aesthetic sensibilities. Wow, some of those fell out the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

 

[Mad Steve 19,874]

Yes it does look like that, but they are all built around anti mine/IED platforms. The Casspir is famous for surviving mine and IED attacks 

[Gorby 16,292]

3 hours ago, Mad Steve said:

surviving mine and IED attacks

Are those photos before or after?