Sprocket 5,539 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 This is only the second Loco kit I've ever attempted. Inspired by Gorby's Choo choo thread, It reminded me of a picture I took in Germany in 1987, on the outskirts of Graffenwoehr U.S. Army base we came across this old relic at the side of a country road, I hadn't been out of the School of Photography for long so I was shooting anything and everything. Glad I did now. so this is the plan, quite simple, make it like that. With all the rust, corrosion, peeling paint and weeds growing up the wheels. Lets take a look inside the box. The kit provides a section of track long enough to cover the length of the loco and Tender, lucky, the scale is so obscure I doubt Hornby would be of any use here. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sprocket 5,539 Posted May 6 Author Report Share Posted May 6 the instruction sheet, quite basic, but workable. the kit will need cheering up a bit, I may add a few steam pipes to liven it all up and make them look 3d. the control panel inside the cab is a bit molded, well it is molded one piece, see what can be done with that, replaced with styrene sheet and a few bolt holes where stuff has gone missing. I don't think I'll be needing the coal, have to scrap that and build a rusty empty tender. the wheels, at least they are commendably round. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessie_C 8,248 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 9 minutes ago, Sprocket said: the scale is so obscure I doubt Hornby would be of any use here. 1/87 is HO, so Hornby would likely be very useful 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Brown 5,792 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 32 minutes ago, Jessie_C said: 1/87 is HO, so Hornby would likely be very useful Yep, Hornby track gauge is HO (although the locos and rolling stock are OO = 1/76) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walrus 9,303 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 Never understood why Elvis wanted a tender to love him. He was a good looking dude. He could have had any part of a train fall for him. Love me tender Love me do, Because you're full of coal. Oh my darling I'll love you, You make my wheels roll. Nice one Sprocket. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hutch6390 941 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, Walrus said: Never understood why Elvis wanted a tender to love him He wanted it to love his deer as well, which was a bit disturbing - Love me tender, love me deer, All my dreams fulfil Sounds like he had problems, if you ask me... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hutch6390 941 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 2 hours ago, Jessie_C said: 1/87 is HO, so Hornby would likely be very useful Scenics will also be readily available, too - I look forward to seeing this come together 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dixieflyer 2,414 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 2 hours ago, Sprocket said: the control panel inside the cab is a bit molded, well it is molded one piece, see what can be done with that, replaced with styrene sheet and a few bolt holes where stuff has gone missing. Ahem! That's called the backhead if memory serves. At least that's what it's called on US locos. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dixieflyer 2,414 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 @Sprocket IF you're interested, and if you want to be troubled, there are brass renditions of all those gauges, knobs, etc. if you want to recreate some that didn't get pilfered. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grunhertz 15,449 Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 This'll be interesting 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin 3,967 Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 good luck 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mish 3,482 Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 Looking forward to the build 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kpnuts 1,845 Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 I like the idea (I just love old and rusty) I'm in. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miggers 6,311 Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 20 hours ago, Sprocket said: the scale is so obscure I doubt Hornby would be of any use here Ah!!!,you might be quite surprised there Sprockers my old fruit: http://www.modelrailwayclubs.co.uk/articles-and-guides/what-scale-is-oo--the-difference-between-ho-and-oo-scales 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sprocket 5,539 Posted May 7 Author Report Share Posted May 7 2 hours ago, Miggers said: Ah!!!,you might be quite surprised there Sprockers my old fruit: http://www.modelrailwayclubs.co.uk/articles-and-guides/what-scale-is-oo--the-difference-between-ho-and-oo-scales That's interesting Miggers, I thought I wouldn't need any thing else save weeds growing up the rusty wheels, but I may be able to make the old shed in the picture too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sprocket 5,539 Posted May 7 Author Report Share Posted May 7 the first parts arc welded together, the three pieces that make up the chassis. the six large wheels have raised circles to be sanded flush. they also need the axle hole drilled out. the circles would have interfered with the fit of the wheels on the axles. first light coat of Halfords plastic red primer. It's refreshing, making something out of the ordinary for me, for a change. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sprocket 5,539 Posted May 7 Author Report Share Posted May 7 while they dry, I'll leap forward over several assembly stages, and join the two boiler halves. there's a visible join line that needs time, attention and various grades of sand paper. finishing off with fine Emery cloth to try and eradicate it. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sprocket 5,539 Posted May 8 Author Report Share Posted May 8 (edited) Brake shoes for the main wheels fitted. I'm guessing that this is a compressed gas cylinder to operate the brakes? A quick and easy way to check all wheels down, not me going Chuff chuff chuff, but I'm noy denying that may or may not have taken place, bit distracted to be honest, I mean 4-nil to Brighton, against a premier football team, Manchester united, what strange days we are living. Then it happened, inevitable really when you take your eye off the ball, I noticed that the rear carriage had it's connecting pin in too hard, and as such was forcing the rear main wheel pair up off the rails, I got into an tizzy and made a mess, then, STOP! Stripped it all back while the glue was still pliable, cleaned it up, and stripped it down. This little rear under cab carriage was causing woe out of all proportion to it's parts numbers, re-assembled the left side frame, had a shower, assembled the right side frame, put the coffee pot on the stove, assembled the wheels back on, cleaned my teeth ready for beddy-bies, when I got up Sunday morning it looked good, ready for some primer. Edited May 8 by Sprocket typo 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sprocket 5,539 Posted May 8 Author Report Share Posted May 8 This morning the front and rear...lets call them Trucks, in primer, it's important that they are loose fitted to the chassis, almost allowing them to dangle, so they don't force the main wheels up off the rails. New pin hole drilled in the rear two wheel truck, now to find or make a new pin. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sprocket 5,539 Posted May 8 Author Report Share Posted May 8 Here's a great video by Mark Felton on German War trains still in Service, if you haven't seen any of Marks films, I can't recommend them enough, well researched and fascinating, worth subscribing to his channel. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miggers 6,311 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 For any building scenery you fancy adding,it might be an idea to have a look here: https://www.faller.de/en/ Their stuff is all to 1/87 or HO scale and German or Austrian styles. There is also Woodland Scenics,their stuff is also to 1/87,but is mainly aimed at the Murrycan market. British stuff,such as Peco or Superquick do make some 1/87,but theirs are mainly aimed at the 1/76 scale or OO markets and tend to be British> Superquick:https://www.superquick.co.uk/model-kits Peco: https://peco-uk.com/pages/peco-products 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hutch6390 941 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Great progress, @Sprocket, this is coming on in leaps & bounds. 1 hour ago, Sprocket said: This little rear under cab carriage was causing woe out of all proportion to it's parts numbers, re-assembled the left side frame, had a shower, assembled the right side frame, put the coffee pot on the stove, assembled the wheels back on, cleaned my teeth ready for beddy-bies, when I got up Sunday morning it looked good, ready for some primer. Well done, a calm & measured approach, such as I always employ in any situation I admire your restraint, not always easy to do, but always produces better results, as shown here. 1 hour ago, Sprocket said: lets call them Trucks Bogies (honest) - let your inner 5-year old giggle! I have to say that red primer looks really smart, must think of something I can use that on as a finish... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miggers 6,311 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Sprocket said: Here's a great video by Mark Felton on German War trains still in Service, if you haven't seen any of Marks films, I can't recommend them enough, well researched and fascinating, worth subscribing to his channel. Looks like they run with the cylinder drain cocks permanently open too. They're usually left open when the cylinders are cold to help stop the steam condensing and damaging the piston seals,so running hot cylinders with them open must lose a fair bit of power. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walrus 9,303 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Nice work Sprocket! Coming along nicely. fwiw thought I was subbed to Mark Felton's channel He makes some cool content. Must have been on my other account so have subbed on my main account now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sprocket 5,539 Posted May 8 Author Report Share Posted May 8 7 hours ago, Hutch6390 said: Bogies (honest) - let your inner 5-year old giggle! I have to say that red primer looks really smart, must think of something I can use that on as a finish... Bogies they are from now on. The Halfords plastic primer, brilliant stuff, quality can and nozzle too, £7, but worth every penny, nice thin easy to paint over surface, use it in the shed though and wear a face mask, or hold your breath and run out after you've sprayed it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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