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My first proper in progress build is going to follow this introduction, although it is a couple of phases in.

This build has an important back story for me, but it’s a modelling one rather than a WW2 lesson in history and goes like this. 

About 4 years ago, a current BrexMod member (i’m not aware I have met a better aircraft modeller at this time, but I am biased) got me to give modelling a go. The following year, which was the evening before Telford,  he introduced me to these other three geezers and polite hello’s were exchanged. One of the said gadgees lived close to me so we kept in touch and I quickly realised he was “probably” one of the best AFV modellers anywhere. At this point I couldn’t decide if I had been blessed or damned, I was now hanging out with a guy who made stunning aircraft models and with his mate that made plastic look like armour plate, whilst me,  well I still didn’t know the difference between acrylic and enamels.

I should say I tend to buy and try to build anything I have been “moved” to do so, via any builder who has done outstanding work. 

The modeller I fatefully met the night before Telford has recently built such a model, an example of a Jagdtiger. I still feel it is/was the best AFV model I have seen and as such, told him recently that I intended trying to emulate it.

WHY oh why did I say that, Not only is he technically amazing, but he is in the premier league when it comes to historical accuracy and detail. Well in an effort to get anywhere near his quality I decided to do a double build. I thought if I build a pair of tank busters it will allow one of them to be a bit of a loss leader whilst the other will hopefully be of a decent build quality, including any good skills learnt from the first build.

So, in a nutshell, I’m going to build two WW2 German Tank Destroyers, and hoping that in the least I end up with an ok model of a Jagdtiger.

 

 

 

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Kind words fella's, thank you. However, the confidence you show in me could easily end up misguided on a number of fronts. The Arizona was more a test of care & precision which luckily suits my background (Toolmaker is a massive hint). There was no effort, nor desire, to add any sense of reality to that build. It was really a training exercise for me, before having a go at the Corvette build with all the David Parkins sets.

I have done a couple of bits of armour which you have seen, but they were of the brown/green variety (there I go again with my historical accuracy) and they also had a fair amount of weathering, which allows some "cover up" where I go wrong.

With these 2 Tank Hunters I will be trying another departure. They will be yellow. They are supposed to look barely used, in use but not beaten up. I will be looking to add some crew to both vehicles. The Elefant will have a few extra's added but the JT will be from the box.

The beginnings of the JT are straight forward, Its a Tamiya kit, which in my experience so far, always means not much fettling and a good fit.

The internal arrangement for the gun allows for future movement so you will have adjustable elevation and traverse.

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The Elefant gets a look in also and this build will eventually race ahead of the JT and will hopefully be my proving ground

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Must have been the medication,

no idea how it happened,

but it was simply not true to say the JT was going to be out of the box (or maybe it was at that point).

I had some time past already chosen to add brass fenders to the JT, and these came with a couple of extra bits also. On top of that both busters were always going to get some after market metal tracks.

Now this is more a problem for my therapist than it is for me, but the truth is, I like the "track bash". Well I did say I have problems!

 

 

Anyway we have further progress.

I added a few small bits of detail to the Elefant

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Time will tell if it all works out

 

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How could you not want to be involved with this?

 

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or this,

haha,

no wonder I'm in a bit of a lull, trying to find value in a hinge that I keep losing under my finger nail !! 

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however, we shall prevail

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I need wood, lets try some balsa

 

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Moving on we still need to fit those pesky fenders.

 

I couldn't resist adding the figure, even at this early stage, as it gives a good impression just how big these beasts were. You wouldn't want to be in a Churchill facing these fellas, although in the one I built recently you could always hope that the first round hit the fascine.

 

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to get to this bit done, I found it helpful to do the following;

add the plastic sheet, as in the second picture,  no-one will know once its painted up.

 

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I should mention that due to inexperience I had added the Tamiya stick-on Zimmerit. In hind sight take the advice of AndrewE and do your own (he suggests no-nails).

The Tamiya stuff is fine, but I know its hard edge is going to be problematic when it comes to painting.

 

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bit more detail, and I'm throwing a bit of colour to highlight any problems with fit

 

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I need the bit in the middle, and as my patience with PE is at an all time low (I blame the Arizona build) I'm stealing it from the kit moulding.

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So its getting there peeps, some trial fitting going on and its all looking ok.

 

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The JT has had its fenders made up and fitted and is just waiting for the Elefant to catch up so they can both go for primer.

 

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I think that's it, next time we will throw some paint on and see what the canvas looks like.

 

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Thanks for looking, I appreciate it.

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Regarding the zimeritt I agree with what Peter Marshall wrote during his recent wip of the same kit. I wouldn’t use it next time as I think it causes as many issues as it solves. It’s sticky backed but you end up using glue as the ends tend to lift, especially if it’s a piece that is folded around a sharp corner.

I haven’t really been quick, in fact I am on a snails pace at the moment.

When I posted the “Whippet” in the gallery a couple of weeks ago I mentioned then that I was just starting to paint a couple of tank busters (and struggling) and that remains the case. So I was a couple of weeks ahead then but much more up to date now. The current state is, base coat is on the JT and I’m into the detail painting on the Elefant. I’ll get the updated pictures loaded over the coming weekend.

cheers

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3 hours ago, Grunhertz said:

I must admit I'm quite impressed by the eduard etch with a bit of 5 minute epoxy it's working well 

Can I ask what you are building? 

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3 hours ago, Toolmaker said:

Can I ask what you are building? 

The ancient tamiya stug iv. As is typical with me it starts out of the box and then goes beyond my meagre capabilities quickly 

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13 hours ago, Grunhertz said:

The ancient tamiya stug iv. As is typical with me it starts out of the box and then goes beyond my meagre capabilities quickly 

I don’t believe there is any such thing as meagre capabilities, I think we all have a huge capacity to be great. What gets in the way is that it’s tricky recognising exactly where that skill set lies and secondly finding the time to bring it into the open (real world gets in the way).

The Stug, wasn’t that a basic tank body with a sawn off battleships main gun banged onto the front of the turret. 👍🏼

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20 minutes ago, Toolmaker said:

I don’t believe there is any such thing as meagre capabilities, I think we all have a huge capacity to be great. What gets in the way is that it’s tricky recognising exactly where that skill set lies and secondly finding the time to bring it into the open (real world gets in the way).

The Stug, wasn’t that a basic tank body with a sawn off battleships main gun banged onto the front of the turret. 👍🏼

Something  like that it's a MK.iv chassis with 75 mm gun mounted on top with armour round it 

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The paint job on the JT thus far is Red Primer and Dunkelgelb. I used the mig ammo modulation sets.

 

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This is how the JT stands at this time. Hopefully I’ll get to this one early in the New Year.

 

 

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I'm looking to bring this in-progress up to date with the next set of pictures. I just spent a couple of hours sorting them in order with the hosting site, which promptly re-shuffled them when I pressed "save changes". Another few hours never to be seen again!

I have inconsistent lighting in my modelling space so you will have to take from the pictures what you can. The steps shown were not a natural progression after the base coat. I would try a couple of idea on the rear of the bus and then scrub it for something else, so all the pictures are definitely a wip. 

First up some base colour

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A wash of sorts followed

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The wheels got some paint, along with some subtle chipping.

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The less than realistic zimmeritt join is clearly seen. Something to deal with later. I'm also trying to add an illusion of steel plate by using pigments  

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My technology seems to be running slow, so I broke up the post in case it was lost.

We continue;

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and that my friends is exactly where we are today....thank you for looking 

 

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Just slipped this one over here for now (famous last words) whilst I put a coat of shine on the JT

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I don't really know what I'm doing yet and so I don't have a set routine. I struggled with the wash on the Elefant and it might be that I didn't get it glossed up enough.

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The acrylic painter's friend, as long as you don't get too close!

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I think that's enough, any more and I would worry about losing the detail on the cast texture, welds etc.

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Short update for me, but we are "live" now.

thanks for looking

Paul

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